Chris Comins is the most dangerous brand of hillbilly; he owns a gun but rarely gets an excuse to use it. Hunters and target shooters at least have an outlet for their rage. Comins apparently just drives around with his gun waiting for excuses.
On May 19th, he found one: what appeared to be two wolves playing with a herd of cattle.
It wasn’t his land; nor do the cows belong to him. But Comins was all too eager to help out when his business partner, landowner/developer Daryl Carter—who’s squatting on the land until urban sprawl reaches that part of Orlando—informed Comins of the wolf invasion. They contacted the cow-owner, Laura Rutherford, and informed her that her cows were being attacked by vicious wolves. (Developers in Florida sprinkle livestock on their land for tax purposes. Both Carter and Comins are in bed with Orange County Mayor, Rich Crotty).
Meanwhile, a small crowd of passersby had pulled over. They too evidently believed the animals were wolves, though none of them saw the wolves threaten the livestock in any way. Perhaps Comins thought they’d all think he was a hero; perhaps he reveled in the attention from an audience as he strutted out masculinely into the field where the wolves were playing. Brandishing his two pistols, this was to be Comins’ big moment, his noble victory against the wild. He aimed, and…
POP!
POP!
His first two shots missed the wolves completely. Witnesses assumed Comins was merely attempting to scare them off.
Then… POP! … one wolf yelps, tumbles to the ground.
At that moment, someone’s desperate whistles and screams resonated outward from the crowd. “Hey!! Hey!!”
The other wolf ran to the side of its fallen comrade.
“Hey!! Please don’t shoot them.”
That’s when it all becomes clear to those watching on the side of the road—the horror of what is occurring; the reason for the frantic screams.
“Oh my God, it’s two dogs!”
“That’s the owner.”
The mood changes in the crowd. People fifty feet away can see the dogs’ collars—as the shooter must have been able to, from point blank range.
One can recognize in Comins a sense of urgency as he takes aim again. One senses his hunger, his salivating over the opportunity to kill something.
The owner, Chris Butler, runs hysterically toward the scene, calling his pets’ names. His Siberian husky named Hoochie flops around on the ground, painfully dying. Hoochie’s best friend, Raley, sits there confused, not sure whether to obey his owners calls or stay with his injured pal. He tilts his head and looks curiously at the madman, oblivious to the danger. Until…
POP!
Raley drops. But both huskies are still moving. The shooter circles his kills like a predator deciding which fresh victim to devour first. Comins realizes he has but a few seconds to finish them off. He looks up at the devastated man running toward him.
“Those are my dogs! Please don’t shoot my dogs!” the man cries.
But unmoved, Comins turns back to his targets. He takes time to steady his hand, knowing he’ll only get a few more chances to kill this man’s dogs. So he inches up, within a few feet, to get a good look at both victims before he finishes them off.
Hoochie tries to get up, but something malfunctions inside and the dog falls again.
POP! POP! Two more shots two more misses.
Now the dogs are between the gunman and the stunned spectators. One of Comins shots (audible at 0:41) whizzes by the crowd.
Raley gets up and tries to flea toward his owner.
POP!
The dog falls again, but then gets up and keeps running. Life or death.
“Please stop shooting my dogs!” Butler wails.
Commins appears determined to nail the evasive mutt, so much so that he forgets about the many human bystanders in the distance, behind the wounded dog he’s shooting at. Carelessly, he points his barrel directly at the human bystanders.
POP!
Another bad shot; another stray bullet zooms past the pedestrians (audible at 0:47).
Comins walks briskly after Raley, who despite four gunshot wounds, escapes to the safety of his owner’s arms. In the distance Hoochie is barely moving.
For the second time during the exchange, the shooter appears to reach into his back pocket, as if switching weapons. Pure adrenaline runs through him. He is pissed at the dogs, and at himself for sucking at firing handguns. I wonder what he’s thinking?
Screw these dogs for not dying! Screw this man for screwing up my target practice fun! Screw this!
But he realizes he can’t keep shooting Raley with the dog so close to Butler, so Comins turns back to Hoochie. Somehow, despite having been shot three times, Hoochie has risen to his feet again. Somehow his four legs still hold him, even though one of those legs has been shattered by a bullet. Hoochie sees that Raley is safe now; Hoochie wants to be safe, too.
It’s now clear to everyone that these dogs are dogs—not wolves—and that they pose no threat to the cows. Any law that might have protected the testosterone-crazed hillbilly maniac the first eight times he pulled the trigger has seized to apply now. But Christopher Comins aims at Hoochie anyway, one last bullet. Laws are just suggestions when you’re buddies are the ones in charge with making and enforcing them!
POP!
Hoochie doesn’t move again after that. Sixty spectators are speechless, as the grief stricken Butler jumps on top of his dog’s motionless body, an effort to protect his pet from further bullets. The dog owner is devastated, paralyzed; his grief is unbearable, even to the stranger from Ireland who knows him only through her viewfinder. When a person hurts like that, the pain is contagious. His anguish becomes ours; we bleed together. We’ve tried to tell ourselves human beings are inherently good and kind and caring; but the world stops making sense to us when someone like Christopher Comins comes along reminds us otherwise. Some people truly don’t care at all. They savor the suffering of others. It hurts like hell to know people like that exist.
By now the people on the side of the road are blaring their horns, making sure Comins knows there are witnesses—just in case he was mulling over taking out Butler, too. As Comins exits the field carrying his empty handguns, he passes the cows, who for the first time act genuinely afraid. His alibi will claim he was there to protect them; how ironic that they scurry now to get as far as possible from this dangerous billy-bob.
Comins later told police he only fired because he believed the huskies to be wolves, and because they were physically attacking him. No charges were pressed initially because it was Butler’s word against Comins’. Then, a few days after the incident, a good Samaritan Irish tourist came forward with this video of the entire incident, which happens to refute the shooter’s entire story.
The unveiling of the YouTube video sparked Internet forum debates as well as an online petition drive, with thousands of strangers demanding that Comins be charged, if not with a crime than at least for Butler’s $4000 vet bills.
Police have reopened the investigation, but any sort of conviction will be tricky because the perpetrator is well-connected in Orlando.
Christopher Comins owns CustomFab, which builds special steel-pipe products for Walt Disney World and NASA. Moreover, Comins and Carter attend prayer groups with Orange County Mayor Rich Crotty (in fact, Carter and Mayor Crotty have made the news before for shady land deals). Crotty was appointed Mayor by Jeb Bush in 2001. Additionally, Comins has generously funded the Bush administration. In short, Comins is in bed with a group of folks who know how to get away with stuff. And it shows.
After all, Christopher Comins’ recent shootout with the Siberian huskies was not the first time he failed to act reasonably with his firearm. In 2005, he was charged with “Improper exhibition of a firearm” when he focused his gun’s laser site on his girlfriend’s son’s forehead. He pleaded no contest to a lesser charge and served one year probation. Some saw this slap-on-the-wrist as a slap-in-the-face to justice.
What happened to the dogs?
RALEY
Raley was shot four times, including once in the back of his head. He is expected to recover, and is now back at home with his owner, Chris Butler.
HOOCHIE
Hoochie was shot four times. The first bullet entered his eye and exited out the back of his skull. That’s why he’s running in circles in the video. The final shot went through and out his chest, and appeared in the video to be fatal. Hoochie has not yet returned home from the vet. It was not clear initially if he would survive. After several weeks, he was finally stable enough to undergo surgery (to remove his eye).
Shortly after Hoochie’s right eye was removed, the vet notified Chris Butler that his dog’s fractured leg would require surgery as well.
What a tragedy. That a person gets so much enjoyment from taking the life of another living thing for no other purpose than pleasure is a sign of mental illness, which seems to be prevalent in this current administration.
I could barely watch the video when it first went public and will never watch it again. Reading your account of the incident just sickens me all over again. Thanks for keeping this alive and exposing Comins and all those associated to him.
-”Cruelty to animals often shows an underlying tendency toward cruelty to humans.”
I and most of my friends have signed the petition however we did not know he was a business owner. Is there anything planned to petition in front of his business location? I for one would proudly forfeit a day’s pay to carry a sign in front of his business. I also was not aware of his ‘connections’ with the politicans I elected…not to worry I WILL NOT vote for any of them again(nor my family & friends once they learned what I have!!) I for one will not give my money to ANY business that deals with this sicko. I can only hope Chris Comins will get waht is coming to him…
I know the owner of these dogs has hired an attorney. Is there an account to send donations too? I would love to help with the cost to bring this jerk to justice.
Hi Tracy-
I don’t know the owner personally, but I’ve been following the Wakeworld forum thread where he posts regular updates. His friend Barry Vaught has set up an account for him called The Hoochie and Riley Fund. Every little bit helps, and the owner, Chris Butler, has promised to refund everyone’s money if and when he wins a civil suit against Comins. Or, if you have a paypal account you can send a donation directly to Butler’s email: shannic@bellsouth.net
As for Comins, I don’t know if anyone’s organized to picket in front of his business yet. However, according to the threads, “(Comins) has had his mugshot on tv. People are sending the video to his business partners and Disney & Nasa (both of whom he does work for). His name,address, telephone number & business name are all over the internet. I have been told he has been forced to take his business website off the internet. Over 2 thousand people have signed the petition and over 14000 have watched the youtube vid.”
People have come out in droves to support this cause. It’s inspiring to see we still have the capacity as citizens to stick up for each other against powerful elites and corporations. Because Comins is so well-connected, he probably won’t be charged with a crime. Nor is Butler likely to win a civil case against him. There’s only so much you can do in court when the defendant attends prayer meetings with the Mayor.
To my knowledge, most of Comins’ clients are corporations, rather than individual customers. The most effective way to achieve justice is to spread the word to as many people as possible that this man is affiliated with Disney, and to boycott not only Walt Disney World but also Disney’s affiliates such as ABC, ESPN, Miramax Films, Touchstone Pictures, Pixar, etc. Christopher Comins has shown multiple times now that he is a dangerous, abusive individual, and a huge proponent of unprovoked violence and cruelty to animals. A family-friendly corporation like Disney can’t afford to be associated with someone like that. It won’t take long for them to realize the only morally acceptable course of action is for them to cut all business ties to Comins immediately.
What a wonderful article! It’s about time someone prints the truth about everything!! I am saddened to think that Comins will get away with this awful crime because he is buddy buddy with the big wigs of the town.
If you want to donate to help with the vet bills you can go to this website.
http://www.pbase.com/barryvaught/hoochieraleyfund
Thank you for the paypal info. I agree he is an extremely dangerous man. I believe with enough pressure – as in the Vick case- we can make a difference. We all need to continue to keep this in the limelight. To say this could one day be you and your animals is not so far fetched. What if this guy didn’t like the way I drove down the road…would he take a shot at me?? I strongly believe that is a possibility. He seems to be able to do as he pleases. I wonder if that has anything to do with him making donations to certain politicians and their causes…..I think I already know the answer to that one.
Ironically, Comins would be in serious trouble with the Feds if those dogs had actually been wolves. The very few wolves, if any exist at all, in Florida are protected by law, and the video would have sent him to federal prison.
I live in an area where there are wolves-lots of them. They were re-introduced in 1995, and are now plentiful enough that they were de-listed as a protected species this year. Even so, any wolf that is shot has to be under proven and specific circumstances or trouble follows.
Only a Southern cracker wouldn’t know the difference between a Husky and a Wolf before dropping the hammer, and wolves wouldn’t be out there in the cow pasture in daylight to begin with… they much prefer to hunt big prey at night, and mostly hunt mice during the daylight hours.
It’s a shame he’ll get away with no penalties. Around here, the dog owner may have shot back at him. Even if there was no return fire, he would face max: 30 days, a fine, full restitution for damages, and a permanent loss of his hunting license.
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someone kill his cattle..burger time!!
Boycott Disney as they are a supporter of this mans (Comins) income and as far as I can tell the whole Church and so called church group are supporters as well. Stop supporting evil people who Lie, Cheat and steal. It is apparent he wanted to shoot something and next time it might be a human. On top of all this he is using his connections to hide behind. What a coward! Maybe his supporters will finally get the picture by not supporting them.
WHY WHY is this Comins not going to jail for discharging a firearm recklessly near the bystanders? I have had a farm for years with cattle and horses (and most attractive for a food source, I had sheep) and never had the wolves or cattle attack my animlas. we would see wolves, cyotes, bears in our woods and pastures at dusk or night but never in broad daylight with a freeway and bystanders all around.
This man was out for a lark with his guns and based on his prior history he should be in jail and fined, and a civil case to pay the vets bills. Anyone who can so recklessly do this is capable of more when witnesses are not present.
and as a second comment, I cannot even kill the flickers (like woodpeckers) that peck holes in my house as a protected species…and this NUT gets to shoot Huskies?
There is something powerful that can be done…. Destroy his business… Send the video to every member of Congress, Executives, directors and large shareholders of Disney as well as leaders of NASA. We can control where our tax dollars go, and I don’t want them going to this freak. Plus Disney knows that their family supporters love Dogs, and the only people who support the shooter are rednecks that don’t go to Disney anyway. He may be in bed with local politicians, but mainstream politicians and Disney know who pays the bills. Take him down..
Good call Michael. Here is a link to Disney’s message boards, which get thousands of new hits every hour.
http://www.disboards.com/
I’ve registered an account and will begin posting links to the video and news reports shortly. The more of us who do this, the more effective it will be.
Also, post links to multiple sources to show that this isn’t just a scam or some bogus smear campaign.
With that many people around you think somebody would have kicked his ass. Motherfucker.
While this guy Commins is a real dick lets not track down every person he has ever communicated with and drag them through the mud.
I can only hope all of the witnesses on-site show up to the hearing along with the video and put his ass away. A little cell mate love would be due justice for this dickhead.
“lets not track down every person he has ever communicated with and drag them through the mud.”
They don’t need to be “dragged through the mud.” They need to be informed. And if Disney doesn’t care enough to do the right thing, then I cannot feel right about continuing to do business with Disney.
As for Daryl Carter and Mayor Crotty and the Bush family, their moral emptiness in life would have been their legacy, with or without their buddy wasting these poor pups.
Click the links. Watch the news.
I’m surprised you’d have trouble with this concept of holding public officials accountable. These are not regular Joe Schmos we’re talking about here; they are powerful corporations and politicians. It is BECAUSE of them that Comins is in a position to ruthlessly open fire in a crowd and face NO retribution.
Mr. Comins business , Custom Fab, with locations in Orlando, FL, Atlanta, GA, San Antonio, TX and Casa Grande, AZ, does not do business directly with Disney or NASA. All products are marketed through a network of distributors. Some major distributors of Custom Fab’s products are Ferguson Waterworks (www.ferguson.com), HD Supply Waterworks (www.hdsupply.com), and other distributors of water and sewer products. If you truly want to hit him where he lives, contact all the distributors of water and sewer products nationwide and tell them to not distribute anything manufactured by Custom Fab.
He owns many guns …. legal & illegal….as do the Carters. He is an alcoholic……always looking for a fight. Whether it be in traffic around Orlando, at the O’Rena for a Magic game, at a concert, or at the airport going thru security. I lived it for too many years. He is a big talker, trying to live the big life with his rich buddies. He is a low life….scum. He has been waiting for something to shoot at. Needless to say, this probably has him all pumped up. Next time it may be your wife, husband, son or daughter. Custom Fab needs to be shut down & he needs to be put behind bars. He has cheated his way to the top only to hurt so many people by his verbal, mental & physical abuse. Family, his employees & friends. Just ask his sons, Chirs Jr & Kyle. I saw them bounced off the walls more times than I care to remember because they didn’t bring their dad a beer fast enough. Wonder how much he has scammed from the business… mmm??? No doubt he so enjoyed taking those beautiful dogs down. That kind of talk is heard around him all the time. He has been itching for this for a long time! I’m sure the Carter’s loved it as well & will use their wealth & influence to convince people that Chris was “doing the right thing” ……Chris is sick. Please, please stop him.
According to the public information, not even once he was married for a year or two… Just wonder how you lived with him for so long, Leslie…Care to answer?
Public intellectual or public sensationalism?
wait for the new article..u guys are dumb
I personally know the girlfriend – she was a neighbor – and she allowed this maniac to put a loaded gun to her son’s head! The father is the only person to stand up to this idiot! She is still with him to this day! Mr. Comins stated to the police officers who responded to this incident that he thought the son was the father – his girlfriends soon to be ex-husband – so, that made the whole incident ok!!! This crazy maniac needs to be put away and everyone in Florida needs to know just how crazy and above the law Mr. Comins feels he is. He was able to buy his way out of this change and had it plead down to a lessor charge with one year of probation and no contact with the girlfriends children. So, all of you people out there concerned he will turn on a human – he already has – a minor child at that! Who’s next????
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My son is the young man that is referenced in your article. He was 17 years old and Mr. Comins claimed he thought my son was me – that is why he pulled a gun on him. He thought he could sway the divorce case between myself and my ex wife Sandra J Hutnick – who by the way is still with him. He was able to buy his way out of this gun charge! Unbelievalbe right?! Not with the friends he has in high places. I did all I could to bring this man to justice and followed all of the steps in the legal process only to be told by the prosecutors office that he had the charge plead down and he received one year probation! So, for all of you out there wondering when he would due this to a human being – he already has – my son! Don’t let the same legal tragedy happen all over again – make sure the legal system stays on Mr. Comins! To all of the public officials and legislature in Orlando – what do you think would happen if one of your loved ones crossed Mr. Comins path on a bad day? Are you willing to take that chance? Put this disturbed man behind bars where he belongs!!!!
I have two beautful husky’s myself and would of totaly went off on chris. I can not imagine that being done to my doges in front of me. My heart and prayers go out to Chris and his dogs.I was going to take a trip to Orlando this summer to disney world with my kids but now have also changed my mind.I will not put any money into Orlando with a Poloce dept and Mayor like that. THat man chris should go to jail.It is clear on that video what happened. How can the poloce and Disteric attorney office not do something? As far as Christopher Comins Girlfriend if she is stupied enough to believe he would abuse his kids and not her she deservers what she will some day get from him. To the boy’s fauther I hope he is with you know and not with her.she must be a unfit mother. I would never put a man in front of my children.That is why I am single also.My ex was a no good jerk also. So I got myself and my kids out.This is a outrage that Chris should not be put in jail for this. everyone needs to satend up for those dogs.And for Gods sake do not relect that Mayor or the Disteric Attorney back into office ever again.For the sake of Florida………Richard T Crotly and the Disteric attorney should be made very aware that the people of Florida will not stand for this.And if they want their jobs next term they need to take action on this matter now!!!!!!
Anyone with a brain can tell the difference between a husky and a wolf! Especially within 10 feet! He just wanted to kill something…be glad there were no small children around.
Comins is a monster. The video shows a cold calculated killing spree of two INNOCENT dogs who are the beloved petsof a Brisith citizen who moved to America for a good life. Comins should be taken out of society. He did not own the cattle, he did not own the land, he has shot at others in the past, he is a gun carrying lunatic.
We need to rally behind the dog’s owners, give money, even $5 to the dog owner Chris Butler, to help difer his vet bills and legal fees to sue Comns in circuit court for civil damages for what he did to these dogs. He is nothing but a wart on the bottom of the scum sucking leach living in the filth of a septic tank.
Sign petitions, write to the state attorney, write the governor, give $5 to Chris Butler. Help and let’s do the right thing.
God bless those two dogs.
First thing First
The incident involving your son and I evolved from your bad behavior. When he tried to withdraw his statements (dictated by you to the police) you overruled him (being the “Adult”) meaning we were going to court which I gladly welcomed. The problem was this would have meant brother and sister (your Kids) testifying against each other in court. Although this could/would create a lifetime of scars, again you didn’t care.
Consequently I worked with the authories by taking a slap on the wrist and moving on. They knew the score. Afterwards a court ordered Psychiatrist interviewed all and determined we were all good together, but in one pathetic announcement to all of us (including your children) the Doctor actually stated “All of us here know your Dad is an Asshole”.
Your kids were not surprise.
Next
Since neither of your children, particulary your daughter, has ever received ANY support from you be it emotional or financial, and their mother struggles to keep a roof over there heads and food on their table, I have taken an active role in providing for your daughter specifically for necessary requirements over the last four years.
Some of these recent expenses are:
Braces: $8,000.00
Oral Surgery: $12,000.00
Not to mention school cloths, a tutor, Physical Therapy, ect. ect.
Anybody who has raised a teenage daughter know how expensive this is, but then again, that’s right… you wouldn’t know that would you. Perhaps you can post your address so I can send you the receipts for reimbursement.
And now th final straw
The “Deadbeat of all Deadbeats” wishes to disrupt his children’s mothers business in an attempt to cut off (his children’s) only means of support (other than me).
I could sit here all day and words could never come for what a pathetic excuse for a human being, let alone a “father”, you are.
I’m sure you will enjoy spending all of your money on yourself. And I’m sure that’s how you will also go to your grave… By yourself.
Enjoy!
A jail sentence is in order here this MONSTER brutally shot 2 innocent domestic pet’s, and he knew they were when there owner was begging him not to shoot. This CREEP is barbaric! and i would worry greatly about any children being any where near him. This film show’s how dangerous he is, he should not be out in society allowed to roam freely.
Your such a dumb fuck who is Butler? You can’t even read the news right all you do is clip links from other stories and try to make your own.
What a deadbeat Dennis is. Seems like this guy shooting these dogs got him to come out of the wood work and act like he cared about his kids.
Posting your ex-wifes website to effect your childrens well being is total low life stuff. I don’t even know you but bringing your kids and their lively hood to a forum like this when you can’t face your responsibilities shows what a low life you are.
If “Dennis” is half the deadbeat you make him out to be, that’s all the more reason for the step dad to step up. Kids with shitty dads need to feel loved, not have guns pulled on them by ma’s new cowboy.
And just an FYI to the individual who seems eager to start a Chris Comins Fan Club in celebration dog-shooting & child-abusing: when you post a comment on someone’s WordPress blog, the author can see your IP address. If the same guy posts multiple comments under multiple aliases (as you’ve done here), the author can tell it’s really just a single dude trying to make it appear that boatloads of folks agree with him, when really no one does. You’re like the prof who rates himself on RateMyProfessors.com, just to offset all the negative reviews from real students. The facts always rise above the bullshit that lame shitballs try to fling around. There’s no escaping yourself. If you suck at teaching, or at life, everyone will eventually come to realize that on their own, one way or another.
i wish this creep that shot those dogs would come my way..he is nothing but a coward and a looser.(to do that in front of kids even).since he is such a coward that he goes around shooting helpless dogs), let him try something like that with me..i am a girl! (but i am sure i would have to get in line..as there are sooooooooooooo many people that want a piece of you
i wish i had been around when he did that!!!!!!!!! feel free to email me coward ass!
karenkrs99@yahoo.com
I think Mr.Comins you are very sad man. You sound exactly like my sick brother who has Manipulative Personality Disorder. Maybe you should look into this. It means you believe that things are the way YOU created them in your mind. It is not reality. BUT you THINK it is. My brother started with a BB-gun shooting cans on the fence, and then shooting my dolls eyes out, then he shot a dog because he had left it to starve and it went crazy, he has been everyone up in my family and sent them to the hospital. He sounds familiar doesn’t he Mr.Comins… you have a lot in common I think. I hope you are arrested and jailed and made to pay for the damage and hurt you have caused everyone involved. I hope everything that is bad int he world comes your way, may your house burn, may your businesses kollapse and may everyone/thing you love leave you and may you turn that gun of yours on yourself and pull the trigger. That is what I wish for you with all of my being.
Mr. Comins is trying to sound like a savior to my children -he is not. I have supported my children and my ex-wife received a very healthy divorce settlement and is very capable of making a good living.
He is trying to take the focus off of his bad behavior by pointing his crooked finger at others.
I may be an “asshole” but at least I’m not a coward – I posted my name – so, you would know who said what! It’s too bad you don’t have the balls to post your name!
If you have anything else to say to me about my kids – you know how to get in contact with me! Drop a dime and call dickhead!
This Chris Comins is a real bad man…”talk stupid and carry a loaded gun”…words to live by. Usually these slightly above neanderthal specimens have to function this way because of smaller than average brain, along with very low self esteem from the very smaller than average reproductive organ! He must be related to Mike “small wick” Vick in some way. And that whole “prayer group” thing…man, that must be a real sight to see! I can only imagine what they “pray” about. Hopefully, they dont kill in the name of Jesus!
Wow…I could comment more, but the idiot doesnt deserve any more press. Hope the backwoods cracker gets the book thrown at him…just for being a complete moron, if nothing else. And you wonder why the rest of the world hates us…because of rim shots like this hick!
i just want everyone to know that the jackhole that committed this crime is the owner of Custom Fab. in Orlando. I hope that everyone will boycot this business. christopher comins’s email is ccomins@customfab.com. please, feel free to email this person as he has not received any punishment for this unprovoked shooting of these domestic family dogs. thank you.
What a sick sick man. I believe in the “eye for an eye” theory… sounds like Mr. Christopher Comins could use a good a** kicking.
why didn’t the people there beat the living shit out of that guy after he put his gun away?
I thought he was going to be charged. That was the last thing I read on chris Bulter’s web page.does anyone know if he has been charged yet?
Christopher Comins Custom Fab web site is back up and running. http://www.customfab.com
I know several people who have worked for him and all have said that he is a difficult person to work with and for. And most questioned his sanity.
The Factual Dog Shooting Story
It’s time to set the record straight –
For police reports and supporting documents go to -
http://christophercomins.blogspot.com
Set the record straight, The film footage did that job already. The dogs( not wolves) were not harming the cattle. He continued to shoot these pets, even though their owner was begging him to stop, and still he continued. There is no way on Gods green earth that anyone could have mistaken these huskees for wolves. Yes the record , how straight will it actually be when all is said and done? This guy has damaged his own reputation by his unforgivable actions that need to be seriously addressed by the appropriate arthorities. One thing for sure, that you can take to the bank is: If those had been my dogs, this guy would have had more to worry about than his reputation.
Set the record straight?? Mr Comins has finally come up with a story. The “record” is the video. How many people do you know would do that??
The police report is the most biased report I have ever read. Everybody I know that has read it has said the same thing.
How can they interview me about my dogs being shot and not ask me one, not one, single question about the shooting????
You want the story. Watch the video
The facts are this:
The video is only four minutes of an incident that lasted four hours!
If you truly really cared about your dogs, you would have been more responsible in seeing to it that they stayed within your immediate control. Despite the number of times neighbors have brought your dogs back to you, you still fail to get a fence to contain them!
A good fence would have prevented all of this.
Take responsibility for your dogs, take responsibility for your negligence!
Rather the fence was there or not, is not the situation. Mr Cumins actions were unnecesary and way over board. The dogs had done nothing to warent being shot, there in lies what needs to be delt with. Not whether a fence should have been up.
Mr. Butler,
How come you haven’t announced to your “following” that, although you’ve received $24,000.00 ( Twenty Four Thousand Dollars ) from Mr. Comins’ Insurance carrier over 3 weeks ago, you still haven’t fenced in your yard to properly contain your animals? And how about all the money you’ve collected from those same “followers”?????? Have you refunded their money as promised????
Mr. Butler is a irresponsible pet owner who needs to be held accountable for his lack of control over his animals. Fence your yard, pay your bills and shut up already! You want to just keep complaining. The video is only a few min. of the day. What about the hours leading up to the shooting! Stop changing your story and step up and just accept responsibility for letting YOUR DOGS run the streets!
These people threatening Chris Comins need to get a life! The crowd that stood by watching, like this was a reality tv show, laying in wait for a tragety need to look in the mirror! Chris Comins stepped up while everyone else stood bye and talked about it. The dogs were on private fenced in property. They were a threat and Chris Comins stopped that threat. None of you are in a position to judge another. Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
We have heard from the ex-wife, (who probably has ran out of HIS money) the ex-employees, the girlfriends ex husband, (who sounds like dead beat ass), blah blah blah. All you ex’s of course have nothing nice to say. All the “lets watch this video and go after some guy we do not know activists”, stop judging and get a life! Didin’t your mama teach you all that if you do not have anything nice to say than SAY NOTHING.
I HOPE IF I EVER NEED HELP CHRIS COMINS IS AROUND!!!
OH P~L~E~A~S~E.
Ruffis (stupid name) you are an ignorant bastard. Don’t own any animals. After you die you’ll come back as an a snake with a short life that will be chopped in half low life_________!
RUFFIS-ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!! SOUNDS LIKE YOU’RE ON HIS PAYROLL OR EITHER A FAMILY MEMBER. I CAN’T BELIEVE YOU WATCHED THE SAME VIDEO I HAVE AND CAN STILL DEFEND HIM. THIS MAN HAS NO HEART. HE WANTED TO KILL THOSE DOGS FOR THE THRILL OF KILLING-NO OTHER REASON. HE WAS USING THEM FOR TARGET PRACTICE. BY THE WAY IF YOU WATCH THE VIDEO AGAIN YOU CAN TELL HE ENJOYED SHOOTING THEM AS HE DIDN’T WANT TO STOP EVEN AFTER BEING BEGGED-YES BEGGED-BY THE OWNER. AND YOU ARE DEFENDING SOMEONE LIKE THAT?? YES, I’M SURE HE WILL BE THERE IF YOU EVER NEED HELP… HE’S A GOOD SHOT AND I’M SURE HE’S LOOKING FOR ANOTHER EXCUSE TO PULL HIS GUN OUT – JUST MAKE SURE YOU DON’T GET IN HIS WAY!
WOW Has anyone actually “READ”this Police Report??
It’s like they were investigating the “Crime of the Century”
But on the other hand…..How many times have you walked in to a 3(or4) hour movie only to see the last 4 “action packed minutes” and then left the movie theatre fully satisfied that you understood the entire movie.
Well that is why the police spent 8 weeks investigating what led up to the 4 or so minutes seen in this video that has been the center of this whole divisive conflict.
As taxpayers you paid big $$$ for this investigation so here’s the deal….Before you go spewing any more negative/positive remarks about this incident/individual please take the time to educate yourself on the matter(follow blog comment 44 link to Incident Report)
And most importantly, before you decide whether or not to pass further judgement…please consider this;
Regardless of the outcome in this matter, all the people involved in this rather sad incident have two things in common….They are all “Human Beings” and none of them are “Perfect”
Only one is Perfect…
And in the end…….
It will be to him for whom all will answer for what they have done……..”and for what they have “Spoken”
Remember…. the Good Book Says;
“Judge not…and ye shall not be Judged”
Amen
KSA
The Bible also says in Proverbs 12:10 “A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel.”
We are the voice of the animals and we will continue the fight for them!! Our voices are strong and we have united. This case has gotten as far as it has due to the thousands of people who believe animal abuse has to stop.
Thanks Tracym. Beautiful. I totally agree. AMEN.
GUESS who is suing the poor dogs’ owner? COMINS !!! That’s right….the moron has filed a claim for defamation against he dog’s owner.
If that isn’t ridiculous then I don’t know wha is. Comins is a self-loathing brut and an idiot.
I saw the same short video that everyone did. I am not a friend, relative or in this mans employ. I am someone who believes in animal rights. Animals have to be protected and cared for by their owners. Mr. Butler did not protect and care for his dogs, he has allowed them to run loose on several occasions – that is neglect!
THIS IS WHAT CAUSED THIS SITUATION!
I have learned to look at ALL THE FACTS before I decide who I support in any given situaiton, (support and judgement are two completly diffent things)! If you look at the facts and not just the few minutes of video you will see a full day of events that led up to this tradedy. Go to the other sites about this situation. Look at the friends of Christopher Comins more facts site and the friends of Christopher Comins site. It is not a site for his friends per say but a site that shows the FACTS of the case. It has a lot of information and all the FACTUAL events surrounding this situation. MOST IMPORTANTLY THE FACTS!
These sites do not have all the soap opera theatrical crap, the ex factor- blah blah blah. So they might be boring to some who are just looking to judge and slander others. These sites are just the FACTS!
Chris Comins did not break the law Chris Butler did. You have to have control over your animals and he did not!. Now Chris Butler is slandering Chris Comins and yes that is against the law, so yes, Mr. Comins has every right to sue Butler.
So for all those who claim to want to help animals why not put some effort into shutting down puppy mills, stop dog fighting, feed and shelter the starving, abused, abandoned. Stop abuse siituations and be the voice of the animals in need.
Mr Butlers animals are home, hopefully in a fenced in yard. They are not victims of abuse, they were injured while running the streets and are neglected by their owner.
Now the animal rights supporters need to take all of their strong voices and help some animals in need. Which is not accomplished by slandering others!
You need not respond to me or my comments in any way. I have real life animals to help! I am only into facts and no soap opera drama so I will not be back to this site again.
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT AND REMEMBER…
The good book also says “Judge not…and ye shall not be Judged”
Well, I am forced to reply. I am an ardent animal activist and I spend many many many hours working to help animal victims. That is a fact.
Even though these canines were running loose, that did not give anyone justifiable rights to kill them. So they might have annoyed some people, but aren’t the animal complaint lines working at the local animal shelter. Is that not their job and responsibility? Isn’t that another fact?
And is it not also a fact that not only were the cattle at risk from stray shots, but also the bystanders, in the crowd? And I’m perty sure there is a law on the books, involving the discharge of a weapon.
Facts can be funny little annoyances at time, can’t they.
What exactly has Mr. Butler said that is being considered slanderous against Mr. Comins? Mr. Butler has said nothing that I’ve heard or read that isn’t true about Mr. Comins. Sorry, I do not believe that you fight for animal rights. You have ‘real animals to help’?? What does that mean? Do you think these 2 Huskies are not real animals?? While it is true Butler’s dogs got away from him that does not give someone the right to shoot them over and over and over again! To think that missing pets or pets that escape from their owners makes the owner irresponsible is ridiculous! If your child gets hurt does that classify you as an irresponsible unfit Father?? Come on things happen. The unfortunate part is these beautiful animals ran into a blood thirsty killer. Or am I being slanderous?! Sorry Ruffis…those ARE the facts.
So you are cutting the people on this blog down who support Butler (soap opera theatrics?) and trying to devert them to Comins blog….hmmmm….sounds suspicious to me. Good try though!
Oh and by the way…this is just one incident involving Comins. He seems to already have a reputation and not a very good one. Since you somewhat remember a passage in the Bible maybe you should have read — that the world will know us by our fruits (John 15:8-16; 1 Timothy 5:9-10). That is, others will observe our conduct and make an evaluation by what they see us do. Comins will be judged but not by any of the people on this blog – we are just voicing our comments which we are free to do.
These dogs are home and ok! Hopefully in a fenced in yard! They should have never been out in the first place. It is
time to get back to helping real animals in need that are neglected, abused and hungry. Yes these huskeys are real dogs, I took when Ruffis said “get back to helping real animals” to mean animals who are NOW in desperate need of immediate help. Some of you are twisting peoples words and attacking everything that anyone says that is not slamming the crap out of this guy!
Ruffis you make some great points about reading all the facts and looking at all the sites. Some of the people on this site are vendictive ex’s or bible beating quoting crazies just looking to be Judgemental of people they don’t even know! Is this about the dogs or slamming the guy?
Mr. Butler has changed his story several times. By his own admission his dogs are loose frequently, to the point where he just ASSUMES that someone will call him or bring them home! ABSURD! He should have been responsible for his own animals and he was not.
If your child gets hurt because you were not attentive and responsible then yes, you are not behaving in a fit manner and could be held accountable if an or injury occured. It would be your own fault because you must BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN!
So if everyone who does not agree with everything you all say you must be a relative or employee of the shooter?
Whatever! Im going to have to side with RUFFIS, he makes the most sense out of all of you!
Tracym are you an ex in disguise? You sure do seem to have it out for Comins! Pent up hostility towards men maybe. Hmmmm…. sounds suspecious to me! Good try though :)
Heehee — I’m just following the quotes given before me. If you want to quote the Bible then you really should know the verses and not just parts of them. Kinda like the facts of this case. Everyone agrees the dogs were loose. That still doesn’t justify them being shot. And just to help educate you — it’s cases like this one that has given us the laws we have to help and protect animals. Such as dog fighting cases and neglect cases and yes, leash laws. I am out for anybody who abuses animals…or tries to kill them. I do hope that Comins pays for this crime and I’m not alone.
I’m glad you used some of my lines though please feel free to use them again in the future if you can’t come up with any of your own!! ‘WHATEVER’ your name is…..
There were 25 contacts made to Authorities on May the 19th prior to the first shot being fired.
May 19th Authorities alerted to wolves / dogs
#1
Kelly C.
911 call to Operator Donna…”It looks like coyotes, I don’t know what they look like, but there’s two of them, in a cow pasture and they’re, I guess they’re trying to get the cows. I don’t know if there’s a baby calf in there that you know the cows are protecting. I can see the dogs or whatever they are… you know…”
#2, 3, 4
Kelly C.
“…this has been the fourth phone number that I have been transferred to. So I’m not making any more calls. If somebody wants to save the cows. I don’t know who to call.”
Wendy Farah
# 5
Called 9-1-1 on 05/19/2008 from cellular phone about two large Huskies running through her neighborhood, routed through Orlando Police Department dispatch. Farah stated she became concerned since there are so many children in the neighborhood so she contacted 911 (Orlando Police Department).
#6
OPD later referred call to Orange County Animal Services as a dog complaint.
#7
First call (#2785) received by OCSO Communications Center at 1908 hrs, 05/19/2008 closed at 1922 hrs. SR 417 and Narcoosee Rd. Unknown male caller advised two wolves attacking cows.
#8
Call was referred to FWC through emergency number.
#9
Second call (#2766) received by OCSO Communications Center at 1912 hrs, 05/19/2008, closed at 1927 hrs. SR 417 and Narcoosee Rd. Caller advised two large wolves attacking cows in pasture north of the SR 417 on Narcoossee Rd. Requests deputy to check area. Unknown Male caller.
#10
Orange County Fire Department Lieutenant Benjamin Schmidt at Station #
62.
He stated an unknown female came to the station at approximately 1700 hrs and informed them about two wolves in the pasture chasing cattle. Schmidt stated he instructed the female to contact Orange County Animal Services for assistance.
#11
Jakubowicz stated a woman came to the station and rang the bell and informed them that there were, “a couple of wolves or coyotes or something are circling the cows in the field behind you.” Jakubowicz stated they (fire department personnel) went out back and noticed to the north there were a couple of dogs circling a bunch of cows and calves.
He stated that after the shooting started, they (fire department personnel) thought they needed to call the Orange County Sheriff’s Office. Jakubowicz stated he was outside watching the incident, on and off for approximately forty or fifty minutes.
#12
Orange County Fire Department Engineer Gary Carter. Carter stated on 05/19/2008, he was working at Orange County Fire Station #76 which is located at Narcoossee Rd and SR 417. Carter stated while working, an unknown female came to the station and described what she believed was a coyote or wolf was chasing cows.
#13 – 22
Orange County Fire Department Fire Fighter Witness Michael (Mike) Moss. Moss stated several bystanders, approximately ten (10) came by the fire station to advise them that two wolves were attacking the cows.
During the recorded statement, Moss stated he was working at Station #76 during the incident. Moss stated that at approximately 1530 hrs, they received a knock at the door to the station. Moss stated he was told by the Fire Fighter who answered the door that there were some wolves or dogs in the cow pasture. Moss stated several more people came to the door to relate the same information to the Fire Department personnel. Moss stated by 1600 hrs, he decided to go outside due to the number of complaints they had received. Moss stated once outside, he saw two dogs running around and the cattle were circled around.
Moss stated he believes they were first notified of this at
approximately 1530 hrs. He remembers this time because he was getting ready to watch a program on television, The People’s Court, which airs at 1600 hrs. Moss said he was sitting in the chair flipping through the channel waiting for the show to start. Moss stated the fire department personnel were asked by the bystanders who notified them of the situation as to what they (fire department) were going to do about this. He said the bystanders would come by about every ten to fifteen minutes. Moss stated none of the fire department personnel called the Sheriff’s Office or Animal Control.
# 23
David Tindall, along with his wife had stopped along Narcoossee Rd to see what could be done. David stayed at the pasture while his wife drove just a few yards up to the local Orange County Fire Station #76, where an Animal Control vehicle is parked.
#24
David Tindall stated while he was on scene, an unknown female came up and was talking with him about the situation. They decided that David would stay at the pasture and she would go to the fire station (Orange County Fire/Rescue #76), which was just down the street. David stated when the female returned, she appeared disgusted with the Fire Department personnel because they did not seem to have any desire to take any action. She saw an Orange County Animal Services vehicle parked at the station and thought they would help.
David stated the female told him that the Fire Department personnel had contacted a “Grove Patrol” or someone who could handle the situation.
#25
Moss stated another lady pulled up and he believes it was the person with the video because she had a European or Irish accent. She then said there were wolves attacking and asked what they (fire department personnel) were going to do.
For more facts go to –
http://www.christophercomins.wordpress.com
http://www.christophercomins.blogspot.com
Facts are facts. You cannot argue with facts. We’ve all watched the video and you look like an uncivilized Neanderthal in it (which, according to your prior police record at least, you are). You wanted to shoot the dogs. And all your little attempts to smear Butler may convince people that he is a bad dog owner, but anyone who watches the video can see the facts. Unfortunately for you, the clever alibis you’d worked out in your head before you fired the shots are ineffective now that people can watch the video and see for themselves what happened. Answer the question: why did you turn and fire the last shot when you knew they were someone’s domestic pets, and not wolves or coyotes? Just for shits and giggles? Face it: you screwed up. Again. It looked like it would be fun to shoot something, you thought you had a valid excuse. You thought you were above the law, turns out you are not! Damn tourists and their cameras!!
So far I haven’t deleted anything Mr. Commins said here, even though most of it is pure drivel, as I believe in free speech and open dialogue. As Voltaire said: “I despise what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it.”
We might have hoped that someone who takes the liberty of freely stating his case here in a forum that mainly disagrees him might offer others the same courtesy. However, my comment on his website is currently: “Awaiting moderator approval.” Many of you may have had a similar experience; evidently none of the comments left there are ever “approved.”
What do you have to hide, Mr. Commins? Why censor peoples’ comments, especially those who are not against you but generally seeking answers in an effort to draw their own conclusions? Only a man who knows he is wrong actively tries to silence his adversaries. Those with confidence in the validity of their claims are happy let their opponents speak–as I have done here with you, because the asininity of your own words speaks for itself, louder than any negative thing I could say about you.
Fred,
Yes, “facts are facts.” That’s been the most “intellectual” thing you’ve said on this blog!
Anyone with half a mind, can’t possibly believe that they have the true “facts” of this incident from watching a 2 minute video clip! Yet people have come to a conclusion, making quick, uneducated assumptions based on that one clip. It’s a lemming mentality that serves to bring out the worst in human nature. To quote Voltaire, since you are so fond of him – “Opinion has caused more trouble on this little earth than plaques or earthquakes.” (RUFFIS in the above comments (#53) makes some great points.)
Mr. Voorhees, in your above comment, you assumed Chris Comins was the one who set up and moderates the “Friends of Chris Comins” blogs. But, that “assumption” too is wrong. I’m the person who set up both of the blogs and I moderate them as well, not Mr. Comins.
Several friends decided to get together and tell the other side of the story. We’re tired of people slandering a good man. We wanted to set the record straight and give the true facts of what happened that day, not emotional babble, but the actual facts! The two sites were set up so people could be educated on what really happened that day.
As far as moderating the comments goes, the WordPress Blog has no comments, whether in support of Chris or not. It is there for factual reasons only. The Blogspot site has only received four, yes four, questionable or negative comments and over 36 comments in support of Chris.
And unlike your own blog, I chose not to publish comments that made death threats to Chris Comins, or that may be harmful to either of the party’s children, or that have foul language, or information that may be hurtful to any one’s livelihood etc. In other words Mr. Voorhees, I chose to be responsible!
I know Chris Comins and you don’t. You’ve made judgements based on the one short video clip, gossip and hearsay. I’ve known him for over ten years and I know the type of man he really is – kind, generous and with a huge heart. He’s the hardest working man I’ve ever met. I know how extremely difficult it was for him to do what he did. He stepped up to the plate to save the baby calves, and no one, not you, me or any one else, could fully understand what it was like to be out in the field that day. No one knows what they would have done in the same situation. And no one knows how this has affected him, how physically sick he was when he found out the animals actually belonged to someone. And how, even weeks later, it still affects him. So don’t even pretend to assume you know him! Making false statements against his character is nothing more than slander!
This is no longer about the dogs or their welfare, they’re alive and well (and hopefully behind a fence). This is about destroying a good man’s reputation. It’s about bringing a man down in a vindictive, slanderous campaign set out to evoke violent, physical harm to him.
These people claim to be so kind and caring to animals, yet are so quick to destroy a man’s life. It only serves to show how ignorant and evil some people can really be. Had the baby calves been mauled or killed by the dogs, these same people would be screaming out against people standing on the sidelines not doing anything!!!
Look, we all love animals. This entire incident is unfortunate all the way around. But Chris Comins didn’t break the law, Butler did. He was not being responsible for his animals, not on that day, on previous days or since. He sat on his couch while his animals were attacking the calves. He alone is responsible for what happened that day. Had he answered the door when his neighbor tried to reach him, he would have been to the field five minutes earlier and prevented the outcome. And for the record, had he been just five or ten minutes later, his dogs would have been shot by someone else with a high powered riffle and he would no longer have his beloved pets.
Animal ownership comes with a responsibility and Butler neglected his, and his animals suffered for that. Hopefully by now he has a fence where his dogs can be contained, preventing them from running off to do this again, or something perhaps much worse.
There are people on both sides of this “fence”. Those who wish to be informed now have the opportunity to learn the facts at both of the Friends of Chris Comin’s blogs. There will however be those who, regardless of what facts are before them, still come to the same, small minded conclusion that it wasn’t Butler who ultimately caused the damage done to his dogs. But at least the facts are open to those who wish to be informed.
So Mr. Voorhees, if you wish to write this email off as just more “pure drivel” as you put it, it is your prerogative to do so. As for myself, I know the true character of the man and I chose to support Chris Comins based not on hearsay, but on the real facts of what happened. That would be an intellectual ie. a person who uses intelligence rather than emotions to come to a conclusion.
The doga were not a threat.
Forget about the dogs and the cows. WHY DID CHRISTOPHER COMINS POINT A FIREARM INTO A FIELD OF PEDESTRIANS AND PULL THE TRIGGER??? That to me sounds like a valid question.
As for your filibustering, here goes:
“And unlike your own blog, I chose not to publish comments that made death threats to Chris Comins, or that may be harmful to either of the party’s children, or that have foul language, or information that may be hurtful to any one’s livelihood etc. In other words Mr. Voorhees, I chose to be responsible!”
Death threats? The First Amendment does live in a rough neighborhood, but I don’t recall any of those. A lot of people were unhappy and said some unfortunate, distasteful things in their hasty anger. Some may have indeed used “foul language.” As a supporter of Mr. Comins, I know you’ll agree with me that impulsive behavior in the heat of the moment is forgivable.
“I know Chris Comins and you don’t. You’ve made judgements based on the one short video clip, gossip and hearsay. I’ve known him for over ten years and I know the type of man he really is – kind, generous and with a huge heart. He’s the hardest working man I’ve ever met.”
All of these things may or may not be true, but we can be sure that all of them are irrelevant. We’re not talking about the man’s entire life, here; we’re not talking about the generous things he did (for tax purposes) over the last ten years. The topic in question is what happened on May 19th: Did Comins know that the dogs were domestic pets, and not wolves, when he fired at them? And the answer is resoundingly YES, when he fired the final few shots, it was by then clear to every bystander there, that these were dogs. That’s the issue in question, and it happens to be addressed in that “one short video clip” that you and Mr. Comins are so contemptuous of. The entirety of Chris Comins’ crime is captured on film.
“And no one knows how this has affected him, how physically sick he was when he found out the animals actually belonged to someone.”
Then why did he keep firing at the pets even after Butler yelled “Please stop shooting my dogs?” It’s a simple question, really. Yet you are persistent in your refusal and inability to answer it. You (and others who stick up for this violent criminal) must know how evasive and disingenuous you sound.
“(N)o one, not you, me or any one else, could fully understand what it was like to be out in the field that day… And no one knows how this has affected him, how physically sick he was when he found out the animals actually belonged to someone. And how, even weeks later, it still affects him.”
Seems like he’s more affected by the chain reaction of good people speaking out against his violence, than about the pain his violence caused. Justice is unpleasant, so I do understand his “pain” as well as his futile attempts to make petty excuses.
“This is no longer about the dogs or their welfare… This is about destroying a good man’s reputation. It’s about bringing a man down in a vindictive, slanderous campaign set out to evoke violent, physical harm to him.”
No. It’s about informing people. People have the right to be informed, and to choose not to do business with dangerous criminals whose behavior they find detestable. That’s capitalism. If Christopher Comins reputation is jeopardized by citizens’ watching a video that documents the kinds of choices he makes, then maybe that says more about his bad decisions than it does about anyone or anything else. It’s not like the video is a fake; the man in the video is indeed HIM, not a body-double. So yes, the video damages his reputation, as it should, because his morality is questionable, his judgment is bad, and his erratic behavior is dangerous, and problematic to society.
And not once have I advocated or encouraged “violent, physical harm” against this man. Mr. Comins is the violent one here.
” BRAVO “
From what some people, who have also know Comins for a long time, have said about him I have to wonder why someone would want to be friends with him. He seems pretty violent and extremely hot headed.
You call people who disagree with you ignornat and evil and of no intelligence — are you not slandering us? I still have not heard what has been said about Comins that is being considered slaundeous.
I almost feel sorry for you only having 36 comments in favor of Comins. Butler has thousands and thousands in favor of him. Yes, we understand about the dogs being off leash and agree it should not have happened. But your comment about the dogs being alive and well….you are aware that one dog lost an eye and had his leg shattered–the other had to recover from being shot in the back of his head and 3 other places. Alive yes…but doing well…I guess that is only the opinion of the 36 fsofcc supporters. Maybe birds of a feather…
Dear fsofcc,
I curious how you feel about your “friend” pointing a gun at my son’s head and threatening his life. I am in no way a vindictive ex-husband – my ex and comins deserve each other. I moved on with my personal life a long time ago. However, incidents that involve my children and comins is not vindictive in regards to my ex-wife – it is vindictive in regards to my children. Did I and do I still want to see him in jail – YES – he is a danger to the innocent people living and working in Orlando Fl.
My son was not “loose” out of his yard like Mr. Bulters dogs – in fact this incident happened on my property – comins was the one “loose” – too bad someone like him was not around to put him out of his misery!
I wander if what happened to my son – happened to your son by comin’s hand – would you still be a die-hard “friend”??
Again – just curious,
Dennis Hutnick
Mr. Comins stated he got a slap on the wrist for pointing the gun at your son’s head….I’m sure that’s what he is expecting in this case also. Just shows what having friends in high places can do for you…..very sad.
This video is only four min of an incident that lasted many hours. Despite the number of times neighbors have brought Butler’s dogs back to him, he still failed to fence his yard and contain his dogs! Has anyone heard the saying “a good neighbor has a sturdy fence”. Butler needs to take responsibility for his dogs and his negligence! I do not understand why no one seems to be the least bit upset with Butler for being an irresponsible pet owner! The dogs were not on a leash, they were on someones elses property over a mile away from home. This is Mr. Butlers fault 100% so WHY IS EVERYONE TREATING MR BUTLER LIKE A POOR VICTIM HERE!
These animals are home and will recover, they will never
be the same but they are alive. When dogs are allowed to run loose you are taking a chance on them getting hurt, you are also taking a chance on someone else getting hurt! These dogs did not just “get away from there owner”. They were on the loose and Butler was at home, waiting for someone to call or bring them home again, like all of the other times. This is not the first time that he was irresponsible and his pets were loose, but I BET IT IS THE LAST!
Why are so many people not concerned about the livestock. Well Florida property owners have the right to protect their livestock from unleashed pets, period. These dogs were not on a leash, were on private fenced property a mile from home with no owner in sight. Comins did not break the law here but Mr. Butler did. Why does no one talk about that?
Yes were not talking about Mr. Comins entire life here. It has been stated that his life is irrelevant yet if anyone says anything even remotely positive people jump on it like flys on cow on a hot summer day. Some people on this site must put in every possible dig towards Comins right down to questioning a charitable contribution. Perhaps some of you only make charitable contributions to gain tax write offs, I do not know but you sure do hop right on the negative band wagon. Some of you all must be very interested in Mr. Comins to pursue him with such a vengence. Maybee some of you people with such strong negative opinions about Mr. Comins DO PROTEST TO MUCH! One might expect negatives from the ex-wives, ex-girlfriends ex husband, ex-employees and wanna be writers. Perhaps some of you are looking for any opportunity they can to slam a sucessful man. YES I SAID SUCESSFUL! Maybe some of you are failures in business, afraid to step in or up, failures at life, or maybe jelesous that you do not have friends capable of forming a complete sentence! Yes, some people actually do generous things NOT for tax purposes, but just to do something kind for someone. Some people have friends who are considered important and this might make others jelesous but it has been stated on this site that THIS IS NOT THE TOPIC AT HAND!
The topic in questions is what happened on May 19th, 2008 in a cow pasture but guess what…. IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THESE WERE DOMESTIC PETS OR WOLVES! IT DOES NOT MATTER THAT IT WAS VIDEO TAPED! IT DOES NOT MATTER THAT THERE WAS A CROWD OF JUDGEMENTAL PEOPLE WHO STOOD BY AND DID NOTHING! These animals were on private property and were threatening these farm animals. What matters is that failing to control your animals and follow leash laws can have a poor outcome and on this day did have a poor outcome! The of these animals is not a crime! The only law broken on May 19th, 2008 was a leash law! This video does not show a crime captured on film!
If these two dogs attacked a child while loose that day and Comins shot them he would be a hero! Comins just stepped in and did something before a tregety occured. He actually did something while others gathered and judged like a reality tv show was on. The crowd thought these were wolves, then once it was determined they were dogs the crowd turned on Comins like wolves!
There were 25 contacts made to the authorities on My 19th prior to the first shot being fired. Why is no one upset with the authorities who failed to respond! Why is no one upset with Mr Butler for failing to control & contain his pets?
This semms to be more about a witch hunt, a personal attack on Mr. Comins! Have any of you every met this man? Has anyone had the nerve to knock on his door and speak with him in person? I am sure that all parties involved in this sad situation wish they could have a do-over but no one can ever go back and recreate time.
We all need to remember regardless who’s side you are on that we are all human and we all make mistakes. I am sure that Comins is someones brother, uncle, dad, friend, boss, companion, friend. No one really knows what it was like out in that field, in the heat of that moment, what was heard or seen. Is sure seems like alot of people are not concerned about the dogs but about tearing down another human being.
IT APPEARS THAT SOME OF YOU JUST NEED TO HAVE THE LAST WORD, THE LAST WORD!
HOPEFULLY WE CAN STOP ATTACKING EACH OTHER & GET THE FOCUS BACK ON HELPING ANIMALS IN NEED OF IMMEDIATE ATTENTION & GO AFTER PEOPLE WHO REALLY DO ABUSE ANIMALS, IT IS HOWEVER, MY OPINION THAT THIS CASE IS NOT ABOUT ANIMAL ABUSE BUT RATHER ABUSING A MANS REPUTATION!
“Why are so many people not concerned about the livestock.”
Because they would be killed soon ANYWAY, that’s what livestock is for- raised in inhumane conditions, and trucked in a jammed truck across the country to be brutally slaughtered for the dinner plate on a per pound valuation.
I’m so glad I don’t eat this putrid flesh raised in misery and thereby support azzholes like the attempted dog murderer.
Because dogs get loose. They were not a threat. And there was absolutly no reason for them to be shot. They are euthenizing the wrong animals at the shelters. This guy has as much buisness with a fire arm as a 2 year old. He needs to be severely delt with. There is no excuse for what he did! If he was so right in what he did, why did he lie and say that the dogs were attacking the cows, Huh? We don’t have to abuse his reputation, he’s doing a fine job of that all by himself.
Sir-
Aside from making no sense & rambling redundantly, you failed to answer two important questions:
1. Why did Christopher Comins fire a gun into the crowd of PEOPLE?
2. Why did Chris Comins continue shooting at the dogs even AFTER Mr. Butler had informed him they were domestic pets?
This second question was the one Mr. Comins apparently is unable to answer.
The sheriff’s report states: “We didn’t feel there was justification to shoot… Where Butler is physically in control of the first dog and the second dog is having difficulty standing or moving far, the need to continue shooting the second dog to protect the cattle is no longer required.”
You have done nothing but repeat what you have already stated. It’s not that we need to have the last word but – hello – this is OUR blog and you are the one who chooses to join in on our discussions. Your put downs are ridiculous – it sounds like you have had too much to drink.
hi,
when ı started to read this, ı was shocked and couldnt belive what kind human being can do this to innocent animal. ı saw pictures but couldnt see videos, if ı see ıwill start to cry and sat bad words to him. we have to do somethings. stop this cruelty to alll animal in the world. thay are alive and they to live free in this world as we are. who loves animal please lets get to together and stop this.
there are civic laws, which are debatable (see above 69 responses); and there are universal laws, which are irrefutable but do not always provide immediate “check and balance”. Whether it’s next monday or 2013, Mr. Comins will definitely “get his change” from this transaction.
Too bad he didn’t shoot himself, rid the world of his misery.
What a POS.
FYI, I’m sure most if not all of the supporters of that POS are just like him. Probably worse. “Ffofcc” and “whatever” thinks their gawd and know everything. Miserable people like them always try to overpower everyone with their BS, but just ignore them.
Our actions in this lifetime will truly determine the paths of our lives. I know many of you are disgusted by the actions of this vile, crass individual. Karma goes on forever, so you caring people who were so shocked by this incident, especially those who wish further violence against this creep, please for your own sakes, be more Christian than the posers who so rightiously defend him, and would be forgiving, for our own sakes. Remember all life is precious. Even if there are leash laws in Orlando, this certainly didn’t appear to be in an urban setting, but in a rural one. Karma latched onto Comins at that very instant, will continue to “dog” him for the rest of his days on earth, and remember these actions will condemn him in his future lives. If ffofcc and ruffis and ksa seem to feel that comins was justified by his deeds, how can anyone qoute the Bible and act so holier than thou, and defend such acts of violence against any living beings, even the mearest of beings. Comins will come back as a dog, and another comins will be there shoot him again ten thousand times over. It always keeps going around. The true character of this, I shudder to give him the benefit of calling him a “man”, is evident in the video. Lowlife scum is more apt. So, boycott his business and encourage others to as well.
While I don’t agree with your philosophy about Comins coming back as a dog I do agree violence is NOT the answer. Others on this blog have mentioned many times we are against any type of violence towards Comins. We only want justice for Hoochie and Riley served from the courts. We are not taking justice into our own hands unlike Comins who felt he could do just that – and so far has gotten away with it. This is scary considering these are the same people we are depending on for justice for our cause….
2 counts of FELONY animal cruelty were formally filed against Christopher Comins for shooting the dogs. FINALLY!! That is a victory in and of itself.
Shooting the dogs was illegal. End of story.
This is an exciting! Looks like 2 felony slaps on Commins… haha, buddy! You’ll get whats coming to you very very soon…. Hope you know by NOW that wolves do not live in FL.. and that is NO EXCUSE for target practice. So disgusting! Honestly… what were you thinking? And lets not bring back your previous crime… against a HUMAN BEING from several years ago! Gross stuff. Justice for all! Even the furry kind! YAY!
“wolves do not live in FL”
That’s true of gray wolves, but red wolves still populate the southeast, albeit sparsely.
While I am an animal lover and owner (4 dogs, 3 cats, 2 horses) and have owned several farms over the years in various states… I can not condemn this man for his actions.
And while I donate thousands of dollars a year to various animal rescue programs ( our charity donations are well beyond what we are able to write off in a year… just in case someone wants to make that point) I do not support ANY of the rabid and unrealistic animal rights organizations.
I take great comfort in the fact that irrational and illogical behavior we see in so many people in this day and age will eventually catch up to them and their children…
As a long-time animal owner, and a responsible one at that… who only stumbled across this story today, I have to honestly say that the dogs should have been destroyed for their actions… I own large breeds that are considered dangerous and that is a responsibility, not just a privilege.
Now I’m really confused, What did the dogs actually do? I mean seriously. They were not harming the cattle, so what actions of the dogs warented death?
“Destroyed for their actions”?
What were their actions? Running away, or playing with cows? And I don’t know which “dangerous large dog breeds” you own, but huskies are not known for their ferociousness. The fact is, Comins thought he could get away with saying they were wolves, and simply didn’t bank on there being a tourist with a camera.
You might want to check with people who have dealt with the breed, and I am not talking about someone with one obese couch potato who does not get enough exercise, but someone who uses them for the purpose they were bred for and is familiar with how that type of dog works in a prey/pack situation. The Inuit and Yupic (sp) indians know, and that is why they keep them apart when they are not mushing.
The breeds aggressiveness aside, ANY dog that courses livestock or feral animals, unless it does it because it has been trained to do it under human supervision in a controlled situation, has gone over to the dark side and is asking to be destroyed. It is a behavior that is not acceptable because it can lead to aggressiveness towards humans. Hierarchy is paramount to a dog, you may think a dog loves you, and in a way they do… but what they truly do is respect and acknowledge that you are above them in the pack. That instinct, to get ahead, never goes away during a dogs lifetime. When they are allowed to hunt unsupervised, and that is exactly what a dog does when they are out on a run, they are becoming less and less controllable.
It has become more and more common for people to anthropomorphize their animals but you have to remember that the animals brain does not work the way a humans does.
The animal cruelty charges against this man are a result of pressure from people who don’t really know what they are talking about. It is yet another instance of uninformed knee jerk outrage outweighing reality.
People who don’t know what they are talking about…that says it all for you. All dogs are pack animals. If the pressure from the public made the courts finally bring charges against Comins then we did our job!! We all did stick together to find justice. Perhaps you should start reading this blog from the beginning and you will have a better understanding of what has been stated.
What a shame. If he’s in with “THE BUSH FAMILY” – which obviously he is, I’m quite sure he will get away with this outrageous and horrific act. THE ONE THING THAT WE ALL CAN CONSIDER HERE IS THIS: IF YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT GOING TO ORLANDO FOR VACATION WITH YOUR FAMILY….GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND UPON RETURNING HOME, WRITE THE MAYOR & TELL HIM YOU WENT ELSEWHERE & WHY. Show the people of Orlando that decent people won’t so much as visit until they make some changes, starting with prosecuting ole Billy Bob Comins to the fullest extent of the law. Sadly enough, I think we are fighting a losing battle here… simply because this sub-human hillbilly has the right connections. Let’s face it… if they can buy 2 elections for President of the U.S. – they can get Billy Bob off on these charges. The same thing happened here in Missouri with a case where a man beat his dog to death with a sledge hammer and a baseball bat, while his 3 kids were inside listening to it all take place on their back deck. The entire neighborhood was awakened by the dogs’ screams from the torture. The prosecutors filed charges to calm down the Animal Rights folks, but in the end, NOTHING was done. The guy got off with a slap on the hand. They even gave him a change of venue after thousands of signatures were taken to the prosecutor because they said now the guy couldn’t get a fair trial here. I’d lay odds that all this guy gets is a slap on the hand too. As sad and unjust as it is.. when you have connections like he does…its the same as him having a “get out of jail free card”. They probably laugh about it right after their “prayer meetings”. The only way you can really fight people with connections this deep is to hit them in the wallet – so stay away from Orlando, Florida – and tell everyone you know to do the same.
That is exactly why I am trying to get people to sign my petition an Care2 ” Stop Animal Abuse”
Now come on, Your comment is awaiting moderation. Now on this statement, Whats to moderate? Well obiously you don’t want me in the conversation, even though I’m on the dogs side so I guess I’ll take the time I was investing in this and find an animal cause that would be glad to have me rooting etc., etc., for them. Too bad.
Hoochie and Raley hang in there sweeties, we love you..
Well I did want to asked you this, though: Why didn’t you jump on this SOB and stomp his miserable ass into the ground? If those had been my babies that SOB would have eaten those guns.
Brenda,
Apologies for the delay. I was not around to approve. I would love to automatically approve all comments, as I used to, but unfortunately Mr. Comins’ connections are very diligent about going through people’s blogs with a fine-tooth comb and suing bloggers for tens of thousands of dollars on the basis of comments left by strangers.
See my other blog for more details:
http://cominsvvanvoorhis.wordpress.com/
Hence, I have to read every comment before letting it appear on my site, to make sure psychos don’t leave threats and thereby provide more fodder for the frivolous lawsuit Comins and his lawyers have brought against me.
I heard about this horrible act, when it happened. It saddens me that such an act has gone on for so long before any criminal charges were made.
Now before anyone jump me, and claims that I haven’t read both sides of the argument, are wrong. I’ve read BOTH blog logs on Christopher’s blog and this one. Comments included. (Not that Christopher’s has any.) The way I see it is, yes, the owner of the dogs should have done something to keep his dogs in his yard and under supervision. And I do not condone the fact that he lets them run loose and wait for others to bring him his animals. Whenever one of my dogs (4 purebred, pack raised Siberian huskies, mind you) get loose, I’m the first person out in the neighborhood searching for them. One must understand that even the most well built fence, it only takes one determined dog to get out. And yes, the breed loves to run. BECAUSE THEY WERE BRED FOR IT. Ask any owner of the breed, and most will tell you that they have had a Houndi break-out of their own and had to chase down their dog. It happens to every dog owner. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. And yes, these dogs have been known to run, that problem lies in the owner. But that does NOT give someone the right to shoot them in cold blood just because they were on someone property. That’s like shooting teenagers who are vandalizing your house/car things like that. Those children are your responsibility, and should be kept under a watchful eye. But even so, does that give me a right to shoot them because they were doing something they shouldn’t? No. and if I did, I’d have been arrested and locked away long before this charges were ever pressed.
If Christopher had just shot into the air, he could have scared the dogs off. ANY animal, wild or domestic would take off at a loud bang like that. There was no need to continue to shoot at them to get rid of them, unless he was aiming to kill. Not to mention, the lame excuse of him not knowing they were domestic dogs. You can CLEARLY see the collars and tags on the dogs from the video, which is WAY farther away from them then he was. HOW COULD SOMEONE MISS THAT. Then to top it off, as he continues to coldly shoot the dogs, when the owner runs up BEGGING? That’s just cruel. He ment to shoot and kill them. Not question about it. Even AFTER he found out they belonged to someone. And the fact that after demobilizing one, he then shoot at it more is just sick. This man has issues and they need to be dealt with.
For all of those out there that claim the dogs were attacking the livestock. Where is the owner stepping up saying that they lost any calves (Not to mention, the cows weren’t even standing in a defensive circle. So even if the video doesn’t capture the WHOLE incident with the dogs on the property, they would still be protecting their young up until the last minute. NOT ignoring the ‘predators’ as they were in the video. Even so, no damage to the livestock is ever mentioned. At all. Two dogs, if the intent was to kill, could have seriously maimed many of those cows in the ‘four’ hours they were claimed to have been near them.
It’s a sad sad thing what happened to those loved animals. Yes, the owner needs to get better measures of keeping his animals confined, but Christopher needs to face judgment for his CRIMES.
For all of you claiming that the video depicts no crimes, I wish for you to see your beloved animals shot REPEATEDLY in front of you, and I want you to tell me to your face that the man/woman who did it did not commit a crime. I feel horrible wishing more pain inflicted to other innocent animals, but it seems that most people will only learn from experience.
Best wishes to Hoochie and Raley on their swift recovery, and to hope that they can retain a somewhat satisfactory life from this tragic incident. As for Christopher, even if you worm your way out of these charges, you god will certainly punish you. I just hope that no other animals, or children for that matter, have to suffer such things like this before it happens.
The character who shot Hoochie & Raley has 2 blogspots for his side of the story. Please go there and read the CRAP written about Sibes and bombard these idiots with posts concerning the True Facts about Sibes! Here is the addy: http://christophercomins.wordpress.com
The video of the incident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhNOO0e1Kqw
This is the comment I left on his blog. I am sure that it and any comment not in his favor will NEVER make it on his sites.
****** I have never seen so much BS in my life as what is on these two blogs. Comins, you had better be glad that Hoochie and Raley were not my Huskies. I would have holstered your gun were it would have had to be surgically removed even if they were not. I have owned Huskies for 25 years and currently have 16, most of them rescues. Their prey drive is for SMALL animals not cattle or people. Even your examples of attacks on humans all identify breeds other than Huskies. All these blogs, are is a lame attempt to justify YOUR stupidity and cruelty not to mention poor eyesight and marksmanship. The video shows it all. I just wish I could sit on the jury. I am sure that this comment will be deleted by you or your “moderator” prior to publication but it will appear elsewhere. And isn’t it funny how the all comments here are all in support of your stupidity and sound as if they were written by the same person or couple of people. ********
Well said Melissa!
This guy must have hired temps to write the
lame a** blog that the thinks will somehow
justify his miserable existance. He would have been better off behind a wall of silence
(and lawyers and money and good-ole-boy connections) rather than throwing gas on an already raging fire.
What a manly hero saving those poor defenseless cattle (that didnt even move until he started shooting).
The lame blog only exposes him for what he is: redneck, impotent FOOL. The least the state can do is TAKE HIS CARRY PERMIT AWAY FOR FIRING NEAR A CROWD OF PEOPLE!!!!!
It is time this asshole gets what is coming to him.
Punish this shithead.
I cannot believe this!!! I am just hearing about it on CList..Had NO idea this had happened, I would love to help in any way I can, and my tears and prayers go out to the pups and all the people who had to witness this injustice! How is it possible for this sort of thing to go on…times of the end foretold in the bible “Man will have NO natural affection….” DIRTBAG!!! Someone let me know how I can help please.
Comins you worthless piece of sh*t, karma’s a bitch! How dare you try to put the blame on everyone else but yourself. Huskies are the most loving, most gentle dogs around. You are trying everything to justify what you did when you know damn well it was a senseless act. F*CK YOU
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Alright everyone, please stop with the death threats to Mr. Comins. I was just contacted by a criminal detective in the city where I used to live when I wrote for this blog. Mr. Comins’ attorneys want these blog entries deleted, apparently because of the death threats. I’ve gone through and deleted all violent threats from the comments section, along with comments that disclosed his personal address or phone #s. info posted This is something I’ve never done before (censoring my blogs); but honestly, I don’t want the death of another human being on my conscience, no matter how disgusting and despicable he is.
From now on I’ll be more closely monitoring the responses to my entries on Hoochie and Riley. More on this soon.
his e mail address is ccomins@customfab.com
Write him and tell him what you think of what he did.
This man is a mentally sick evil piece of shit human trash.
[...] made about a dog shooting incident that occurred about a year ago. You can see his original posts here and here, the small video of the shooting here, and a blog put up in defense of the accused [...]
There is NO DEFENSE for a piece of crap slimeass like Christopher Comins, period! At least one can take solace in remembering where he will be come his judgement day!! He’ll then be begging for forgiveness….
This is absolutely horrific… It took me so long to read because I couldn’t stop myself from crying.. Poor Mr. Butler and his two dogs. If anyone had done that to my dog I would not stop do anything in my power to seek their punishment. This just makes me further convinced we need stricter animal cruelty laws with harsher punishments. No pet owner should have to endure what this man had to. I wish Raley and Hoochie a speedy recovery.
This man Comins is a monster.
I hope he gets what he deserves.
This reject from humanity needs the full weight of the law down on him with prison time, and should also loose his fire arms and ordered to never aquire anymore.The victems should recieve compensation for all the unnecessary greef, pain and suffering that this looser caused _with all vet, etc., included.
I would like to personally thank the kind lady that had tha gulption and forthought to film this waste of space, that scum can’t lye his way out of what he did. Thank You and I’m sorry you had to see one of our rejects from humanity at the worst. But God Bless You For Coming Forward. I wonder: how many of the people that were there, will actually step up and be counted?
If they can’t charge him for target practicing at helpless dogs, can’t they get him for willfully discharging a firearm near and in the direction of a group of people?
I’d also like to know this. Why is he not being charged with at least reckless endangerment for firing a gun, more than once, in the direction of a crowd of people?
No brainer.
http://cominsvvanvoorhis.wordpress.com/2010/02/23/did-chris-comins-fire-into-the-crowd/
That doesn’t answer my question, it’s just more evidence that he should be charged.
Sorry, to answer your question, the reason he isn’t being charged for that is because it’s less sexy of an issue. The DA decided to charge him with Animal Cruelty only after he received hundreds of emails and letters, as well as two petitions signed by a combined total of close to ten thousand people–all of whom were so concerned about the dogs that the human endangerment seemed secondary. I suspect they’ll revisit it though, if Comins gets off with another slap on the wrist and gets his guns back again.
Unbelievably, the dog shooter STILL maintains that he never fired in the direction of the crowd.
So why are my comments awaiting moderation? My comments are taim,compared to some. Not that I don’t agree with them.
this guy who shot those dogs… is a pathetic excuse for a man! i hope he burns in god damn helll!!!!!!
Way to go Chris! Those dog’s were trespassing on the property, as was the owner of the dog’s. He had every right to put those dog’s to sleep. Also, send those accented immigrants back home. Thank God for amendment two. Oh, and Chris Butler keep your dog’s on a leash next time. It’s a law. Maybe they wouldn’t have been gunned down like that if you were more responsible.
To ChrisSupporter, you rate right up there with “STUPID” don’t you! Just another redneck, white trash, subhuman piece of shit. Do yourself a favor and keep your opinions to yourself or fear bringing yourself down to wallowing in the mud with the pigs you are akin to.
FYI, dogs can’t tresspass…it’s not as if they read and or understand tresspass…just showing your ignorance, aren’t you!
You said he has “every right to put those dogs to sleep”, is that what you call shooting helpless domestic dogs, you imbecile! Love the way you defend your friend and his scumbag, dark aged way of killing for fun, by placing the blame on the dog’s owner. You aren’t allowed to kill someone or something for breaking the law, unless you are in fear for your life…. so tell me was your dirtbag friend in fear for his life?? Not by the looks of the evidence on video! Usually, when people are in the VERY, VERY small majority of an issue, they take the time to look at the issue from all the angles to see just why their being in the minority might be, then they reasses their thinking and can easily figure out their mistaken view…..but then you have those, like you, who crawl out from under a rock to spew the pure ignorance they are made of from their core…THAT WOULD BE YOU CHRISSUPPORTER…in case you couldn’t figure that out!
While you are thanking God for amendment two, make sure you have your arguement ready on your judgement day to tell God why you supported the killing right of his creatures… you know the ones we humans are to be caregivers for… I’m sure he will love the oxymoron you present him…hmmm amendment two/killing of helpless animals… you see God, it is the dogs fault, afterall they were trespassing …..yep, HELL is the place for you…for eternity, remember!
[...] blog called Public Intellectual. Comins objects to two of VanVoorhis’ blog posts from June and August 2008, which reported and followed up on an incident that occurred in May, in which [...]
I have adopted two rescue dogs that were abandoned by their preceding owners. They are the most adorable creatures I have ever known. It is distressing how some people treat animals like belongings or worse. My hope is that more people will get advised about this topic.
Looks like the hearing on this case is scheduled for March 1st, 2010 at 10 AM
Put this man behind bars and sue his butt! I would have attacked him and beaten the crap out of him if I had been there and I am a 60 year old woman. If this man works for Disney, boycott Disney until they fire him!
When will the murdering of animals be talken more serious. We need more laws to protect them. I just can’t even watch the video.
I like your writing style, and I’m hoping for more stories like this one.
MR. V-
I forwarded your news links to a friend of mine, and she pointed out to me that the audio doesn’t work for one of the CBS news videos. I looked into it and sure enough the sound has been disabled for BOTH CBS news videos that reported on the Comins shooting.
At first I thought it was just the website, but then I clicked on other videos from the same date and all of them seem to work just fine.
Check it out:
May 23, 2008
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/16374176/detail.html#video
June 1, 2008
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/16453702/detail.html#video
They just muted it? That is the biggest bunch of bullshit i’ve ever heard if it’s true! Isn’t it supposed to be like one of the cardinal rules of journalism that you NEVER bend over for bullshit threats like that?
Has someone tried to contact ClickOrlando to find out what the deal is?
It appears that Christopher’s bail of $1,500 was paid by Maury L. Carter.
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6262109
Very interesting.
It’s also no small coincidence that these guys are in real estate, since SLAPPS are most commonly utilized by real estate developers. The Carters must have learned about SLAPPS from all their shady land deals in the Orlando/Orange County area. Anyone can google these references.
Explain me please, why you call a civil law suit against the author of this blogg a SLAPP? Please, post any and all the links to any and all stories that are full of hate as much as the blog author’s story (original story). I have not read any, neither BBC or ABC or Orlando Sentinel or local TV channels articles that are equivalent to this one. Since when hate speach was covered under the First Amendment?
PS. I am not CC or CB or anyone else’s involved in this communication friend, lover, group member, etc. And I own a dog. And honestly, I am looking forward to hate speach being covered under the hate crime statute.
Hi Irene-
Thank you for your interest and concern. I can’t speak for the person who left the comment you replied to.
However, I am the author of the original blog article. While I regret to hear you didn’t care for it, I also welcome and appreciate your criticism. That is the point of the First Amendment, after all–that we all have the right to criticize opinions and actions we find distasteful. It’s unfortunate that CC does not share our interest in civic participation. I invited him to suggest edits to my original article, but it seems he prefers costly, private legal battles to “free” public dialogue.
With due respect, I’m afraid you’re misinformed as to (a) the definition of “hate speech”, and the (b) breadth and content of the new hate crime statute.
Hate speech is “any speech, gesture or conduct, writing, or display which is forbidden because it may incite violence or prejudicial action against or by a protected individual or group, or because it disparages or intimidates a protected individual or group. The law may identify a protected individual or a protected group by race, gender, ethnicity, nationality, religion, sexual orientation, or other characteristic.”
Here’s another definition of hate speech which informs us that hate speech is “… usually thought to include communications of animosity or disparagement of an individual or a group on account of a group characteristic such as race, color, national origin, sex, disability, religion, or sexual orientation.”
To my knowledge, Christopher Comins is not a member of any of these protected minority groups. Even if he secretly is, my comments don’t criticize him on those grounds, but on the grounds that his dog-shooting behavior was cruel, dangerous, and irresponsible.
Hopefully this clears up your confusion.
Thanks again for taking the time to share your $.02.
You are so patient. Truly, this woman was a troll and a moron. I can’t believe you wasted 6+ paragraphs on a thoughtful response.
If it was not for people full of hate, disrespect, jealousy, name calling, etc. we would all have lived in a much better world. Let’s meet in 10 years and see how far your name calling gets you. I am sure you are quite behind already.
Well, but you also call it a SLAPP, so you could offer some comment… But thank you anyway for taking your time and responding.
As far as the definition of hate speech goes – here you are – your first definition “protected individual…by…other characteristic”. [which is CC being a successful businessman – that is the 'other characteristic']. After I read your blog, I looked online for other animal cruelty cases in the surrounding counties, and none of the horrific planned cases were covered to the extent that this particular case was. And I am sure if any other person was in CC shoes on that day, the case would have been forgiven or no one would have paid any attention to it on the first place. IMO, it is only!!! because of one’s status that the case is still ongoing. I am all for justice, but I am for equal justice. And in this instance, regardless if CC goes to jail/prison, you pay your cost, the justice would not be served as the one who is at fault (CB) will still be ’clean and well’ perhaps laughing at you and CC. Let’s face it: neither you nor CC would have been in the middle of all the mess he (CB) created: had he not been negligent (which is a crime too), CC would have not been on that field, and you would have found something else to write about [and saved yourself time and tons of money]. Not sure what kind of communication invitation you sent to CC, but I think CC should not edit your writing – it is simply not his job, but yours.
Then, I am sure that by now you’ve seen outcomes of all animal abuse/negligence cases in the area. Is it justice to campaign for much!! stiffer penalty for one if it was not given to others? Equal justice is what is guaranteed by our Constitution.
And…you are so angry about someone violating your free speech right (SLAPP). If you are such a believer that all you wrote is protected by this right, then why did the tone of all of your following stories change? I still believe that hate speech should not be excused for free speech. Your first writing was brutal [you may disagree ;-].
Again, thank you for responding. It is much appreciated.
Frederick-
You have my permission NOT to respond to this idiotic followup by her. She obviously fundamentally misunderstands the definition of hate crimes and hate speech, and has declined your polite suggestion that she educate herself. As such, I encourage you to ignore anything she says henceforth, until she acknowledges that Chris Comins is no Matthew Shepard
And GIHI-
You have my permission to ease up a bit.
I heard the the blogger is being sued but did Christopher get charged or receive any punishment?
–forgive me I just learned of this story and do not have the time to research it thoroughly.
Hi Dawn-
Yes Christopher M. Comins was charged with two counts of cruelty to animals at the felony level. The next court date is scheduled for Thursday Apr 8, 2010.
[...] Now, however, it doesn’t take dogged activism or leaflet-distribution to get you in trouble with corporations who want to sue you. Everybody and his brother is online — Facebooking, Twittering, blogging. And apparently, as we’ve seen with some recent SLAPP suits against bloggers, it doesn’t even take much of an opinion to get yourself SLAPPed. Travel blogger Christopher Elliott found that out in January 2010, when he was sued by a travel agency for what he saw as simply reporting the news — writing about allegations against the agency. Here is his original blog post and his own commentary on the SLAPP case. A man who shot two Siberian Huskies in a YouTube video sued a blogger for a critical post right here on WordPress. http://publicintellectual.wordpress.com/2008/06/06/barbarian-hillbilly-dog-shooter-christopher-comin… [...]
Does anyone have an issue with a police statement being made prior to the video’s existence being known and then the story changes after? Hypothetical question.
People rarely surprise me.
I don’t know that I’d say I have “an issue” with it. Actually I’m glad he lied, because it speaks volumes about his credibility (or lack of).
http://cominsvvanvoorhis.wordpress.com/2010/04/12/the-boy-who-cried-wolf/
If people think they can get away with something, they’ll go for it. Most people won’t even be honest with a clerk who accidentally gives them too much change. So why would a repeat offender with no moral conscience tell the truth about committing a crime that’s likely to land him in jail? Imagine that you’re Comins: you know you’re guilty, but all you have to do is mislead the cops and they’ll let you walk. So you think to yourself, “How does telling the truth benefit me? It doesn’t. So, screw the truth. It’s not like they have a video to invalidate my statements.”
I agree with you completely. I did not know it was permissible to give a false statement and not be held accountable.
I’ve known that humans are bastards, but this? If he’d done that to my dogs, I would’ve killed him with my bare hands no matter the consequences. Such people need to be closed up in a tiny room without contact with anyone so they will go mad and kill themselves, really.
Looks like they tried to grace Comins with a slap on the wrist, but the repeat offender rejected the plea deal this time around.
One more status hearing, then the trial.
http://cominsvvanvoorhis.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/prosecutor-offers-comins-plea-dea-comins-rejects/
Don’t be surprised if the latter never happens.
Oh my God, I would jump on this piece of sh…………. and kick his butt until it turn purple, have been an owner of five dogs I would oh my God I don’t have words what would I done to this asshole. My God as much I get to know humans, I really love my dogs more than anything, we as human that have common sense are more evil than animals. Animals are full of love and forgiveness, ’cause I bet that if this bastard is dying and these two beautiful dogs have the chance to save his life they would save it no matter that he tried to take their own. God will make justice for this poor beautiful dogs and this beast will pay for what he did, ooooohhhh God I would beat the shit out of him if he would do something like that to any of my dogs. I just hope that some one do something to reach any justice for this little ones to regain trust again…. God will help them…… and punish this human trash that did this to them….
Hi I have just come across this case after joining the fb group for “Justice for Bear Bear”. I am appalled at these cases in the US and am glad I don’t live there with my animals.
How can people get away with this it is appaling?
What is the latest on the criminal case and the civil suit?
It beggars belief that when there is video evidence such as this that it can drag on for so long.
[...] blog post from Public Intellectual, written in June 2008, provides a vivid account of the shootings, [...]
[...] blog post from Public Intellectual, written in June 2008, provides a vivid account of the shootings, [...]
If the dog owner would have obeyed the law and had his dogs on a leash instead of running free on private property this wouldn’t have happened at all.
Hey uralldunb, or are you the wonderful Comins, marksman extraordinaire, himself in disguise?
YOU are the dumb one. If the property and or the cows were yours you MIGHT have had a right to protect them but they were not ….. in either case. And I suspect that even had Hoochee and Raley had been wolves as you claimed you would be facing FEDERAL charges instead of or in addition to the state charges as they are / were Federally protected.
The video says it all ……. no wonder you have tried to have it ruled inadmissible ……. the guilty never want evidence of their guilt brought to light. Same as the bastard who abused our Lucas.
I can’t believe this prick’s sleaze-ball are trying to get the YT video thrown out on another bullshit technicality. Still waiting to find out whether or not the judge fell for it…
It’s called keeping your dogs on a leash.
You are an asshole! You should be put out of your misery!
Dannyboi, the dog owner was already punished and fined handsomely for not having his dogs on a leash.
Now all we need is for the shooter to punished for the law that he broke, and there will be nothing left to talk about.
A dog off a leash is no more a death penalty than jaywalking is.
This hillbilly was just acquitted! Sad what the world has come to these days.
If it is indeed true that the POS was acquitted then Comin’s next victims blood is on the judge’s hands too. Doesn’t say much for the judicial system in FL.
Absolutely insane that he got off. Clearly he’s sleeping with the right people. Sick sick sick.
F…ing A..h.le! Angers me!
SO FRED WHERE ARE ALL YOUR SUPPORTERS NOW?
CHRIS COMINS STOOD UP AND DID SOMETHING WHEN NO ONE ELSE WOULD! ALL THE BYSTANDERS STAND AROUND AND DO NOTHING THEN JUDGED THE ONLLY PERSON WHO DID!
THEN THERE IS FRED, SETTING UP ALL THESE HATTER BLOGS, INCITING PEOPLE TO THE POINT OF PEOPLE LEAVING DEATH THREATS, INTERFERING IN THIS MANS LIFE, CHILDREN, FAMILY AND BUSINESS, WHY FRED? ARE YOU TRYING TO BECOME AN INTERNET SUPERSTAR? ARE YOU AN INTERNET SUPERSTAR? YOU HIDE BEHIND YOUR COMPUTER AND JUDGE! YOUR MAMA PROUD OF YA?
PEOPLE WANTED THIS MANS HEAD ON A PLATE! THEN THE CASE IS DISMISSED AND OF COURSE YOU AND YOUR LITTLE FOLLOWERS CAN’T SAY, OK IT IS OVER WE LOST! NO, NO, NO! NOW YOU ALL SAY IT IS BECAUSE HE HAS MONEY OR IT IS WHO HE KNOWS! YOU ALL ARE A SUCH A TREAT! HOW ABOUT HE WAS IN THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT HE DID!
THE CROWD STOOD BY LIKE THEY WERE WATCHING REALITY TV! CHRIS COMINS STEPPED UP WHILE EVERYONE ELSE WATCHED AND JUDGED! THOSE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD NOT THROW STONES! DO YOU LIVE IN A GLASS HOUSE FRED?
WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE EX-WIFE (WHO PROBABLY HAS RAN OUT OF HIS MONEY), THE EX-EMPLOYEES, EX-GIRLFRIENDS, THE GIRLFRIENDS EX HUSBAND, (WHO SHOUNDS LIKE A DEAD BEAT), AND OF COURSE FROM FRED AND ALL OF HIS LITTLE INTERNET FOLLOWERS! EVERY SINGLE PERSON HE CAN GET WORKED UP WHEN THEY DO NOT EVEN HAVE ALL THE FACTS! ALL THE “LETS GO AFTER A GUY WE DO NOT KNOW ACTIVISTS” NEED TO GET A LIFE. DIDN’T YOUR MAMA’S TEACH YOU ALL THAT IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING NICE TO SAY YOU SHOULD NOT SAY ANYTHING. PEOPLE SHOULD NOT TEAR EACH OTHER DOWN!
CASE DISMISSED! NOW THE TABLE IS TURNED FRED! NOW IT IS YOUR TIME FOR COURT, WHERE ARE ALL THE SUPPORTERS FOR YOU? WHERE ARE ALL THE SAVE FRED WEBSITES! ARE YOU ENJOYING ALL THE ATTENTION THIS HAS BROUGHT YOU? HOPEFULLY PEOPLE ARE DIGGING DEEP INTO YOUR PAST! DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING IN YOUR PAST YOU DO NOT WANT ALL OVER THE INTERNET! HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN TROUBLE WITH THE LAW? EVER BEEN IN A FIGHT? EVER BEEN CHARGED WITH ABUSE, ASSULT, ANYTHING?
FOR EVERY ACTION THERE IS A REACTION! YOU HAVE PUT ALOT OF EFFORT INTO THIS AND FOR WHAT? WHO DID YOU HELP? PERHAPS IF YOU WOULD PUT ALL THIS TIME INTO HOMELESS ANIMALS OR ANIMALS STARVING OR SUFFERING YOU COULD DO SOME GOOD BUT NO! YOU SEEN TO THRIVE ON HOW MUCH DRAMA YOU CAN CREATE! WELL HOPEFULLY YOU WILL LOOSE AGAINST COMINS! MAYBE YOU AND THOSE LIKE YOU CAN LEARN SOMETHING! PROBABLY NOT! IT IS PROBABLY JUST GOING TO COST YOU AND YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY ALOT OF MONEY!
AS FOR RUFFIS, I SURE HOPE TO HAVE SOMEONE LIKE CHRIS COMINS AROUND IF I AM EVER IN NEED OF HELP OR IN TROUBLE! NOW IT IS BACK TO HELPING ANIMALS IN NEED FOR ME.
CONGRATS CHRIS! HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE PEACE
NO NEED TO RESPOND FRED YOUR WORDS MEAN NOTHING!
this guy could’t bus a grape in a fruit fight
OJ Got off too, what’s your point? Doesn’t mean he didnt ruthlessly shoot two harmless dogs.
[...] story was widely reported in national and local news. Graduate student Matthew Van Voorhis, wrote a post on his blog condemning Mr. Comins. Mr. Comins then sued Mr. Van Voorhis for defamation. Why isn’t Mr. [...]
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